Woodrun Association, Inc.
Board of Directors Meeting
June 4, 2009
Call to Order – Welcome: 7:00PM
Chairman: Wallace Snuggs
Present: Wallace Snuggs, Gordon Knowles, John Fulton, Pete Blue, Bill Staiano, Gerald Yates, and Carol Grigg. Absent: None.
Mr. Snuggs welcomed everyone to the meeting and directed John Fulton to report on the road deposits.
Road Deposits for Building/Roads
Director: John Fulton
John Fulton reported that the roads are in good shape and we have taken in and given back 7 road deposits listed below.
584/583
Gabe Padilla
Building a shed
1306
Michael Trgovac
Ditch Work
510
Robert J Frohreich
Driveway
1099
Timberline Building Garage

(Pat Pittman/Bill McKiethan)
764
Dale Patterson
Driveway
Mr. Snuggs said that the board is going to suspend the approval of the March, April, and May meeting minutes so that the directors have time to look over them and will approve them at the next meeting.
Security:
Director: Pete Blue
Mr. Blue announced that Woodrun has contracted a new security company called Security Forces, Inc. The board decided to do this because over the past years, it has been good and bad. Security Forces presented the board with a very impressive package that is at a reasonable price. Other companies were very high and didn’t offer as much. Mr. blue then introduced 2 representatives from Security Forces at the board meeting, Mr. Walters and Mr. Curran.
A member asked Security forces what they are going to bring to Woodrun, and Mr. Walters responded that what their company would like to do is figure out what Woodrun currently has, and then asses what technology they could bring in, for example, a computer system upgrade to keep track of members and visitors on a more accurate basis. He noted, that it is up to Woodrun on how far they will want Security Forces to go with changes to the current system.
Mr. Knowles asked Mr. Walters what they would do in an instance where there was a domestic disturbance call. Mr. Walters replied that they would evaluate the situation and call the appropriate authorities, whether it is the sheriff, 911, etc. Mr. Curran then added that Security Forces officers don’t have police authorities and don’t jump in and stop fights. They identify, observe, and report; they are a deterrent and have to be careful because there are liability issues that keep them from getting too involved with those types of situations. Mr. Curran emphasized that they are strictly a deterrent, and will contact the right people to handle all situations.
A member asked who would maintain the computer at the guardhouse. Mr. Walters responded that a site supervisor or an even better person would be the secretary at Woodrun because they are more aware of who owes money and owns what lots. This way if a Security Forces officer handles it, and they terminate employment, there is no retraining.
Mr. Blue let everyone know that the board will implement what they feel is necessary for Woodrun. This company is what Woodrun needs and they come highly recommended by other communities that use them. Mr. Blue is tired of seeing people without passes and the gate arms raised with a paper in the window saying “Be back in 20 minutes.” Mr. Blue added that there needs to be accountability. Mr. Walters added that the board is going to sit down with Security Forces and put together a policy and procedure book that will be programs that apply for Woodrun.
Mr. Walters announced that he is the District Manager for Security Forces, Inc. He will make rounds to Woodrun approximately twice a month. Security Forces checks on their guards at different times. Security Forces will be “stepping on toes.” Woodrun members will probably get upset, but they are trying to do the right thing and keep Woodrun safe. Mr. Curran said that they are going to put together a custom “bible” of policies and procedures that the guards will abide by. Woodrun’s current policies are very lax and it will not change over night, so it would be in Woodrun’s best interest if the membership was notified before hand that there is a new security company as of July 1, 2009, and to be aware that it will be very different from the previous security company.
A member asked Security Forces if they perform background checks on their employees. Mr. Curren responded that they perform random drug screening prior to and during employment and they also perform driving record checks on their employees.
Mr. Blue asked if Security Forces performs mental evaluations. Mr. Walters responded that we should all check out the website (www.sfi.appone.com) and look at the application process, because eit is lengthy, and it filters out what they don’t want. All potential employees are asked a set of 50 security related questions, and if they pass that they move on to psychological profile questions where there are 7 graded items.
Mr. Knowles asked if Security Forces has hired officers for Woodrun yet and Mr. Walters said that he has a crew of 6 preliminary officers hired.
Mr. Yates asked if the contract price that Security Forces quoted is based on 1 year or 5 years. Mr. Curran said that they quote based on 1 year, and they have to redo contracts every year because minimum wage goes up and that is the only increase they have. Their margin never changes. If a company is on a tight budget, they will try to work with them on the increases if they can’t afford it.
Mr. Walters mentioned that Woodrun currently has gate cards, and he disagrees with that because you can give gate cards to any person on the street because no one checks for stickers. He suggested that Woodrun think about getting gate readers that are above your car and read the sticker at the top of the windshield. There should be a change, regardless.
Mr. Blue said that the board will be going through the Security Forces manual and choose which policies and procedures they want to implement at Woodrun. The board needs the membership to give their input and use common sense about what we need and still be cost effective. Woodrun wants to get their money’s worth. Woodrun will definetly have a much tighter security.
Mr. Snuggs mentioned to Security Forces that Woodrun definetly needs 2 officers at all times for fourth of July weekend.
Mr. Walters and Mr. Curran from Security Forces, Inc. left the board meeting.
Treasurer/Secretary/Finance/Maintenance
Director: Gordon Knowles
Mr. Knowles reported that he would like to report the finances in a different way. He would like to switch the P & L to an accrual method because this is how you have to file your taxes at the end of the year. This is the way it should be done all the time.
Mr. Knowles then introduced the new secretary at Woodrun, Candice Norman.
Mr. Knowles reported that we have collected about 25% of our annual dues. The expenses look as though they are in line. At the end of the year, expenses will match the income.
Mr. Knowles will also introduce reporting on the balance sheet.
Mr. Knowles went over some goals he has for Admin/Office/Finances/Etc. (he added that this still needs to get approval of the board)
-Accurate and timely financials (P & L and Balance Sheet)
-Aggressive A/R collections
-Member record keeping
-P/O System
-Work order system
-P/R in house
-Hire new CPA
-Set up investments
Maintenance/Beautifiction:
Director: Gerald Yates
Mr. Yates reported that Joe and Time are continuing with mowing and mulching. They planted flowers and built a flower box at the pool and clubhouse for beautification as well as planted flowers at the front gate. A member added that it all looks wonderful.
Pool/Social Report:
Director: Wallace Snuggs
Mr. Snuggs reported that the filter system has been reworked and the new drains have been put in. The pool has been very busy. Last Saturday there were 93 people in the pool at one time. Overall, Mr. Snuggs is very happy with the pool.
Mr. Snuggs mentioned to Mr. Yates that there needs to be trash pickup at the pool on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
Mr. Snuggs said there was an issue with the commode bolts being broken. Mr. Yates said that Joe went to Lowes today to get the bolt and fixed it.
Mr. Snuggs reported that the new automatic chemical system works great and it will reduce chemical costs. The new system has 3 filters and turns water every 5 hours.
A member asked if the lifeguards will start carding people at the gate, and Mr. Snuggs responded that as of July 1, 2009, they will start carding everyone that comes in the pool.
A member asked if there was going to be anything done about parents dropping off their kids at the pool unsupervised. Mr. Snuggs said that the lifeguards will send everyone home that is not supervised by an adult. Mr. Staiano added that everything is going to tighten up. There will be no more “babysitting” at the pool-there has to be an adult with every child under 14. Mr. Staiano is going to check with the health department to find out what the state considers an adult (16 or 18 years old).
A member then asked what the board was going to do about the kids swimming at the boat dock. Mr. Staiano responded that the new security company will help rectify that situation, as they will check it regularly and tell them to get out.
Boat Dock/Campground
Director: John Fulton
Mr. Fulton said that he wanted to address the kids swimming at the boat dock. He said that he was fishing the other day and saw about 5-6 teenagers swimming there and notified the current security and they responded that they didn’t know they weren’t allowed to swim there. If the board puts up signs, kids will just rip them off, so hopefully the new security company will get this squared away.
Mr. Fulton reported that he put up yellow tape on some of the boat slips that don’t have boats. Mr. Fulton added that there is an instance that Slip# 80’s boat is ruining one of the new docks and causing considerable damage. Mr. Fulton is trying his best to watch over the docks and catch things before it causes more damage.
Mr. Fulton also mentioned that there is a member who wants a copy of the current boat dock list as well as a copy of the current boat dock waiting list. Mr. Fulton expressed that he didn’t think we should be giving out this list to members. A member raised his hand and said that he was that person (Lenny Hagesether). He said all he wanted was the list because he was offered slip# 50 and doesn’t want it, so what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Mr. Fulton decided that he could come and look at the list in the office, but not have a copy to bring out of the office.
A member asked if slip# 50 could be fixed to have a 4 points tie up, and another member seemed to think there wasn’t. He just said you have to get creative with how you tie it.
Mr. Snuggs mentioned that there are a lot of road signs and stop signs missing in Woodrun. He asked mr. Yates to look into who makes them so we can see if we can order more. A member added that there is no point because no one stops. Mr. Blue responded that if they don’t stop, they will get a ticket. Mr. Blue added that the reason Woodrun can now write tickets is because the law changed and Woodrun is now a Public Vehicular Area. Mr. Staiano said that the board needs to put in the newsletter to warn the membership about abiding by the law, including wearing a helmet, or they will get a ticket.
A member asked about the state law for 4-wheelers, dirtbikes, and golf carts and underage kids driving them. Mr. Blue responded that if they give him the names, he will talk to them, but it is not against the law.
Clubhouse Report:
Director: Carol Griggs
Mrs. Griggs reported that she received a cleaning bid from Donna Wall who does housekeeping for the Badin Inn. She bid $250.00 to do the top and bottom.
Vice-Chairman/Security/Pool/Social
Director: Bill Staiano
Old Business:
Consolidation of Lots
Mr. Knowles announced that he would like to make a motion to discuss the “change of all future consolidation of lots as of October 1, 2009, where currently there are no additional dues on the adjoining lots to a dues structure of $200 on each adjoining lot.” Mr. Blue 2nd the motion. Mr. Knowles said he didn’t like that single lot owners are subsidizing. The value is higher for multiple lots, but the dues are the same. Consolidation of lots has cost Woodrun over $90,000.00 in lost dues. If it continues this way, there will have to be a raise in dues. He added that there should be a discount on consolidated lots. Regarding lot owners that have already consolidated, they would be grandfathered in under the previous dues structure. Mr. Knowles proposed that this motion have an effective date of October 1, 2009, this way it will give the members time to consolidate under the current dues structure if they want to. He added that there is a stipulation that the lots being consolidated have to be adjoined to the current lots. Present consolidated lots would be grandfathered in. Mr. Knowles felt it would be fair to give a refund or credit to the current years dues for people with multiple lots. The office will go through and give those to all that apply.
Mr. Snuggs asked “all in favor,” and majority ruled yes. The motion was carried.
New Business:
Road Deposits by Contractors
Mr. Snuggs said that he felt it was not a good idea for contractors to put up road deposits and it should be the homeowner. When the road deposit is put up by the contractor and they are done with the job and leave, if there is damage, we won’t be able to collect the rest o the money. If the homeowner puts up the deposit and there is damage, Woodrun can put a lien on the property.
Mr. Blue made the motion to collect road deposits by homeowner only, and Mr. Knowles 2nd the motion. Mr. Snuggs announced that the motion was carried.
Laurie Morehouse – Clubhouse first Sat. of each month for Scrapbooking
Laurie Morehouse was not at the meeting and Mr. Snuggs said that they will address this again when she attends a meeting
Take back of lots – Member Letters
There were 2 letters from members (attached). For the letter from Joe and Margot Dagher, Mr. Snuggs said that we can’t waive her dues. She has to pay it. For Elizabeth Carter, the board will bring it up at the next meeting. Mr. Snuggs told Candice Norman to write them a letter saying that the board will discuss it and get back to them.
Woodrun lots for sale
Mr. Snuggs said that there are 6 or 7 lots for sale. The board is going ot have 1 of the lots percolation tested. The list of the Woodrun lots for sale will go in the next newsletter.
Newspaper Boxes – Current method of who gets what box – Need to reorganize?
Mr. Knowles suggested that Candice Norman get with the current newspaper companies (Charlotte Observer and Stanly News and Press) and find out if they have a lits of who gets the newspaper sand in what boxes, and then the office will put together an organized list of who gets which newspaper in what box.
Membership Information–what information is a matter of public record that we can give out?
Mr. Snuggs said that the office needs to give out the information. Mr. Knowles said that we shouldn’t be giving out phone numbers for that information.
A member asked about a new Woodrun member Directory, and Mr. Knowles responded that this would be a project we will work on after September.
Admin Mileage Reimbursement for Woodrun deposits and errands
Mr. Knowles expressed that Candice Norman was doing bank deposits on her way home, and felt it was unfair for her to do Woodrun errands on personal time. There should be some compensations. Mr. Snuggs mentioned that he goes into town everyday and could do the bank deposits.
Maintenance – Budget for new mower attachment for the tractor
Mr. Staiano mentioned that it is very dangerous for the maintenance crew to be mowing the banks and wondered if it was on the budget for a new attachment for the tractor to mow the banks. Mr. Snuggs said that they budgeted for new equipment and they would need to look into prices for this attachment and what the capabilities are. This issue would be tabled for the next meeting.
Pool Restroom Fans – Repair or replace
Mr. Staiano said that the fans in the pool restrooms are going really slow and need to be fixed or replaced. They are over $100 each to replace, so they would like to try to fix them first. Mr. Snuggs suggested that this issue be tabled for the next meeting after they try to clean and fix them.
Pool Quote
Mr. Snuggs received a quote for a new pool cover. Mr. Knowles said that this would be a good idea because we could leave the water in the pool for the winter and it would hold down the pool to prevent it from rising and it would clean a lot faster when you open it in the spring. Overall, there are less problems if you have a cover versus emptying the pool in the fall. Mr. Snuggs said this issue would be tabled for the next meeting.
Added New Business Issues at Meeting:
Vehicle for Security
Mr. Staiano mentioned that the current security vehicle needs new tires despretly as well as get washed once a week. It is a poor representation of Woodrun the way it is. Mr Snuggs said to mr. Yates that he needed to bring the car to Pro Tire or 5 Points because they will rotate the tires for free. Bring it to whichever one rotates for free.
Mr. Fulton asked if the security officers could use onw of the Woodrun trucks. Mr. Staiano said that used to be the case, but the officers would take it on a joyride and beat it up badly. Mr. Yates said that would be a bad idea because Joe and Tim leave equipment on the truck, and they would have to unload and reload it the next day.
Bi-laws
Mr. Knowles brought up the fact that the bi-laws currently have a dues structure that has not been voted on. There has always been a clause that if you own a lot, you pay the full lot dues, and if you own an additional lot, there would be a $35.00 discount on each additional lot. You pay $345.00 for the first lot, and $310.00 for each additional lot. One day this $35.00 discount just evaporated. There is no record where it was voted on to remove it. Mr. Knowles just wanted the board to be aware because he talked to a previous board member last week and he said that deciding to remove the discount was done in passing, and carried out because he felt like it. That should never have happened.
Mr. Knowles suggests that the $35.00 discount remain in effect and doesn’t feel that there needs to be a motion because it was never voted on. The $35.00 credit will be applied on a person by person basis and Mr. Knowles and Candice Norman will go through and fix this in the receivables.
New Applications for Membership:
Calvin R and Roselia G Clark

Lot 1462
Mr. Knowles made the motion and Mr. Blue 2nd. Motion carried.
Open Public Comments:
A member brought up that there needs to be something done about guests using the boat ramp. Mr. Snuggs suggested that there be a fee of $20.00 if they do that and there is no sticker. Mr. Staiano agreed that there should be a fee for this. Mr. Knowles added that the parking lot is extremely clogged with cars and trailers, and it is a mess. There needs to be a way for people to park when they go out and use their boat.
Mr. Staiano said that security will tighten up overall on all amenities of Woodrun, and this will hopfully fix all of these types of issues.
Mr. Yates brought up that there needs to be a lot more speed bumps. He also said that people need to raise their hand and wait to be called on. Don’t blurt out comments.
A member asked if there was a way to put an insert into the newsletter for SHIDP – a state health insurance assistance program. Mr. Knowles asked him to give the office an electronic file and we would put it in there.
A member asked if the game day group could use the pool during adult swim time for an exercise class. The board said yes.
Next Board of Directors Meeting: July 2, 2009
Adjournment